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...2 Bare ..... The Bareback Poll Results Are In .....

...but first.... here is the original post.....

.......2 Know........."Wow - You're Obsessed With Barebacking"............

........... This was one line from a conversation I was having with someone about my most recent poll.....

Am I obsessed with barebacking? Yes. Because I want to understand it. I also reaffirm that here on 2 Cents Worth Down Under, I will never write for or against barebacking. It is not my place to approve or disapprove of peoples' individual choices.

Before I get into it - the simple plain truth is that sex without a condom feels good. End of story. For tops it has enhanced sensation with no need to pause the passion to put a dom on. For the bottom, it is easier to take a cock due to lack of the issue of friction that even a well lubed rubber can produce. Not to mention those with latex sensitivity/allergy. For those in relationships, it is described as the ultimate way to truly physically bond with a partner during sex.

.Now....Once upon a time in the 90's the resurgence of barebacking was a "push back" against a hardline culture of safe sex that was built on a foundation of shaming people who fucked sans condom. It was also somewhat rebellious in the fact that HIV took the "choice" out of whether to use protection or not and now imposed a measure of restriction that some people pushed back against. After the mass deaths of the 80's there was a quick and sharp response to the epidemic in Australia. Whilst the promotion of healthy and safer sex was comprehensive and very target group friendly, the response to those who admitted they barebacked was often harsh and disdainful. This was an approach, I believe, due in part to many educators and HIV health workers at the time who had suffered many losses. However, it was a tactic that ultimately failed.

In the early 2000's the psychology of barebacking shifted to a culture of the "gift givers" and "bug chasers". For me this was an alarming change of paradigm that I am still to fully understand. Whilst HIV treatments had certainly advanced by this time, they were still largely unsuccessful and the death rate was still significant.

Now in the 2010's barebacking has taken on an almost "extreme sport" culture. Just as in extreme sports where there is a significant risk of injury and death, it seems many view barebacking with a similar but morphed type of view. Given the permeation of the community with regards to HIV and STI information via the net, advertising campaigns and word of mouth/peer education, there are very few people who are truly ignorant of the risks. There is also a somewhat false view of the efficacy of treatments. Yes, treatments have advanced beyond what we initially ever hoped for back when I worked in sexual health between 91 & 95, but people are still dying. Non-compliance with treatment regimes. Uneven compliance. Genetic factors. Aggressive strains. These are all still killing people.

In 2009 (as supplied by the Mundi Index / Avert.org) there were 17,000 deaths in the USA, 1000 in Canada, 700 in Britain, and 100 in Australia. I reference these countries as they are countries with sophisticated and long term HIV health education programmes that have significant knowledge penetration into the community consciousness..... These are also countries where barebacking is now - depending on which source you speak to - the RULE not the EXCEPTION... Indeed, in my experience with sexual encounters, more often than not the bottom said I didn't 'have' to use protection if I didn't want to. I did, but was surprised at how few requested a condom. These were people from varied backgrounds, ages, professional and blue collar. Anecdotally, what does this tell us?

It says that at a fundamental, almost primal level, the safe sex message has failed. Why?, given that there are life threatening issues involved, how has this happened? What is it that has resulted in this behaviour becoming so wide-spread? Why have so many men, aware of the risks and consequences of HIV, chosen to engage in this behaviour?

The plain and simple truth is that there is no one answer... the answers - much like the virus itself - mutate and change faster than health education can keep up.

Shalom and Blessings to you all.

D
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..........OK......... here are the results.....


  • 55 (15%) - of respondents BB'd 100% of the time
  • 63 (17%) - of respondents BB'd Most of the time - rubber-ed up if they had to
  • 13 (3%) - of respondents BB'd About half of the time
  • 38 (10%) - of respondents BB'd Yes but not often
  • 11 (3%) - of respondents BB'd once in the last year
  • 8 (2%) - of respondents BB'd - but it was an accident and the freaked out
  • 98 (27%) - of respondents Never BB'd - unless in a committed relationship
  • 71 (19%) - of respondents NEVER engaged in BBing
(PS Yes - I know the %'s only add up to 96 - but you have to take rounding into account)

So in a MACRO view ....
  • 136 respondents - 35% - have barebacking as their primary or common sexual practice
  • 44 respondents - 13% - have barebacking as an irregular practice
  • 8 respondents - 2% - have barebacking as an accidental and unintentional act
  • 169 respondents - 46% - have barebacking as a restricted and/or non-participatory practice
.........Now I have to say I was pretty surprised by this actually.... Given the anecdotal and qualitative evidence out there - I suspected the rates of safe sex to be lower than reported, especially reading my original post which was based on some 15 years of involvement in gay mens health in multiple capacities.....

...So where does this leave us? Easy - fucked up.

Now that was a pretty flippant remark - but by that I mean simply this... HIV is not going anywhere. It reinforces the belief that our safe sex message has failed and that human beings will truly be creatures of free will irregardless of whatever consequences may or may not be presented to them - even with fatality as part of the equation.....

So......... read this....... think about it.........talk about it........... comment on it.......

.... My parting comment is this - Yes I am obsessed with Barebacking.... because its cultural, social, sexual, psychological and individual impact can not be ignored... After all... it won .. and safe sex lost....

Shalom and Blessings to you all....

D
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PS Yes this was NOT a scientific survey using any of the standard data gathering formats - but it DOES give pause for consideration...........

PPS - I'm including Sean's comment here in it's entirety and deservedly so..

You make many interesting points and I applaud you for blogging about it. It only encourages people to think.

A few points:
People don't like to talk about sex and it is sorta a taboo to do so. So when sex results in emotional problems, abuse, std's and pregnancy, many just block it out hoping it'll go away.

Sex is like a drug, it produces a high, is addictive and the more you have (especially anonymous) or become addicted the more risks, i.e. BB, you take. Plus, many encounters will involve alcohol and/or drugs.

More eduction is needed about the risks of the medications. Even when the meds work on the HIV a significant number of people will have organ damage that can and does lead to poor quality of life or death.

In the US, meds cost $1,000 - $3,000 a month with out insurance and even if you have it it is still expensive and the quarterly blood tests are very expensive as well.

Hep B and especially Hep C are out of control and not very responsive to treatment yet.

Think about all the people who still smoke, drink, do drugs (both illegal and RX) and anyone who gets into a car. All kill as many if not more people a year then AIDS.

One final point, the percentage of heterosexuals who have condomless sex is probably 2-4x higher then gay men (in developed countries) so they ignore the risks as well (although it is significantly lower).

.......2 Know........."Wow - You're Obsessed With Barebacking"............

........... This was one line from a conversation I was having with someone about my most recent poll.....

Am I obsessed with barebacking? Yes. Because I want to understand it. I also reaffirm that here on 2 Cents Worth Down Under, I will never write for or against barebacking. It is not my place to approve or disapprove of peoples' individual choices.

Before I get into it - the simple plain truth is that sex without a condom feels good. End of story. For tops it has enhanced sensation with no need to pause the passion to put a dom on. For the bottom, it is easier to take a cock due to lack of the issue of friction that even a well lubed rubber can produce. Not to mention those latext sensitivity/allergy. For those in relationships, it is described as the ultimate way to truly physically bond with a partner during sex.

.Now....Once upon a time in the 90's the resurgence of barebacking was a "push back" against a hardline culture of safe sex that was built on a foundation of shaming people who fucked sans condom. It was also somewhat rebellious in the fact that HIV took the "choice" out of whether to use protection or not and now imposed a measure of restriction that some people pushed back against. After the mass deaths of the 80's there was a quick and sharp response to the epidemic in Australia. Whilst the promotion of healthy and safer sex was comprehensive and very target group friendly, the response to those who admitted they barebacked was often harsh and disdainful. This was an approach, I believe, due in part to many educators and HIV health workers at the time who had suffered many losses. However, it was a tactic that ultimately failed.

In the early 2000's the psychology of barebacking shifted to a culture of the "gift givers" and "bug chasers". For me this was an alarming change of paradigm that I am still to fully understand. Whilst HIV treatments had certainly advanced by this time, they were still largely unsuccessful and the death rate was still significant.

Now in the 2010's barebacking has taken on an almost "extreme sport" culture. Just as in extreme sports where there is a significant risk of injury and death, it seems many view barebacking with a similar but morphed type of view. Given the permeation of the community with regards to HIV and STI information via the net, advertising campaigns and word of mouth/peer education, there are very few people who are truly ignorant of the risks. There is also a somewhat false view of the efficacy of treatments. Yes, treatments have advanced beyond what we initially ever hoped for back when I worked in sexual health between 91 & 95, but people are still dying. Non-compliance with treatment regimes. Uneven compliance. Genetic factors. Aggressive strains. These are all still killing people.

In 2009 (as supplied by the Mundi Index / Avert.org) there were 17,000 deaths in the USA, 1000 in Canada, 700 in Britain, and 100 in Australia. I reference these countries as they are countries with sophisticated and long term HIV health education programmes that have significant knowledge penetration into the community consciousness..... These are also countries where barebacking is now - depending on which source you speak to - the RULE not the EXCEPTION... Indeed, in my experience with sexual encounters, more often than not the bottom said I didn't 'have' to use protection if I didn't want to. I did, but was surprised at how few requested a condom. These were people from varied backgrounds, ages, professional and blue collar. Anecdotally, what does this tell us?

It says that at a fundamental, almost primal level, the safe sex message has failed. Why?, given that there are life threatening issues involved, how has this happened? What is it that has resulted in this behaviour becoming so wide-spread? Why have so many men, aware of the risks and consequences of HIV, chosen to engage in this behaviour?

The plain and simple truth is that there is no one answer... the answers - much like the virus itself - mutate and change faster than health education can keep up.

Shalom and Blessings to you all.

D
.

.......2 Poll........................Bareback Honesty..........

...............see the poll on the side - make your choice - it's anon so be honest.......

D.

....2 Bare..........Porn Actor aka Barebacking Hypocrite...........

.........Please read the below interview of Marc Dylan aka Chris Gabriel............


***interview reprinted from Gay Porn Times - interview by JC Adams***

I had a chat this afternoon with Marc Dylan, a muscular newcomer with sexpics under his belt for Jet Set Men (the forthcoming ripped-from-the-headlines parody ANTHONY’S WEENER), Falcon Studios, Lucas Entertainment and Titan Media. He’s embarrassed about the VOD release of a condomless blue movie for SX Video titled BAREBACK ME, PLEASE that features him smack-dab on the cover (he is billed as Chris Gabriel). Mr. Dylan, 27, filmed two bareback blue movies—the other was for Treasure Island Media—before deciding that he’d rather shoot condoms-only. But with the release of the SX Video film, he’s concerned future directors, costars and others in the biz might have the wrong idea about him.

Mr. Dylan is repped by Howard Andrew and FabScout Entertainment.

JCA: What’s the timeline here? When did you film for SX Video and Treasure Island?
MARC DYLAN: I talked to them in early June. I had emailed a lot of companies and they responded first and offered to film with me. I was just really excited to get to try to doing porn, so I said yes. They shot with me in early July.


JCA: What was that experience like for you?
DYLAN: After my second shoot, I just really felt uncomfortable with the barebacking even though they pair negative guys together [after testing], so I declined shooting with them anymore, even though they made me a really good offer. Shooting with them was an interesting experience for my first time ever doing porn. They were nice and friendly people, but I just decided it wasn’t for me. About the same time, I started getting some interest from other companies that shoot with condoms, so I jumped on the chance to work with them. I really enjoyed the experience of doing porn, except for the barebacking, so I thought it was good timing.

JCA: What was it about shooting without condoms that made you uncomfortable? Can you talk about that?
DYLAN: In the beginning of August, one of my best friends found out that he was HIV-positive. He had been dating and got it from a boyfriend who was not faithful. Before that, I was just kind of embarrassed that I did the bareback porn since I’m pretty safe in my personal life. My friend’s whole life is changed now and I felt more guilty than embarrassed about the barebacking. He got something without knowingly putting himself at risk since he was in a relationship, and I knowingly put myself at risk just because I was too excited to try porn to wait.

JCA: Why did you want to speak up about it publicly?
DYLAN: People are always entitled to make their own decisions about bareback sex and everything else, but I don’t want to be seen as someone who thinks bareback sex is a great choice or something I do regularly. I got into porn because it’s something I have always wanted to try, I like sex and always have been a little bit of an exhibitionist. But I also thought it would be cool to see some new places and meet new people, and I was curious about what the people who do it are like, and how porn was made, since I watch so much of it.

JCA: Do you regret getting involved in the industry?
DYLAN: I’m really glad to be doing it because I’ve seen some really cool things, had fun, met some really nice people. A few are becoming good friends that I talk to almost every day or two. I just wish how I started was a little different.

JCA: Well, don’t beat yourself up too much about it. You tried something, you decided it wasn’t right for you.
DYLAN: I just wanna make sure people know that since I have done my first [condoms] video, I have not done a bareback video.

JCA: Anything else you want us to know about you?
DYLAN: Well, I live in Mississippi. I was born just outside of New York but I have lived here since I was 10. Other than doing porn, I live a pretty boring, normal life.


...............Now - here's my thing.........Personally - I neither approve nor disapprove of barebacking here on the blog (if you want my personal views - profile me) ......... I try to present it as objectively as possible....... but when I read an interview like this, it really makes my stomach churn and here is why.......

HE'S A LYING DOUCHE !!!

See - "pretty boy" up above got caught up on FILM what he does in his PERSONAL life. I do not believe for a second his whole "Friend caught HIV and it made me rethink" schtick.... and this quote is why....

"I was just kind of embarrassed that I did the bareback porn since I’m pretty safe in my personal life."

"Pretty safe"? - so what does that mean? He only barebacked as a top? He only bottomed bareback for people he knew and trusted? He spat not swallowed? He always peed after sex coz that's what the literature says to do? ........WTF???

..........The thing that happened - and as someone who used to work as a Gay Men's Health Educator in the 90''s - People involved in condom porn saw him, liked his look, met with him and then shamed him for what he did......... a tactic often used in the early days of HIV education. "If you shame them - they will stop - and then they will only fuck safe" - a line I *actually* heard at an HIV conference..... the interview above his is 'public repentance' so that he can get that contract with Titan or Falcon that will pay the big bucks for a muscled buffoon like him.......

.......Now if pretty boy wants to be a cumdump in his personal life - that's his choice. Only the most ignorant of imbeciles these days are unaware of the risks of barebacking. BUT for him to do an interview like that sends the complete and utter wrong message....

.........and it hinges on his use of the word "guilty" ......... basically he was caught doing something that he thought his peers would be upset about. That isn't a proactive health choice - that's a knee-jerk reaction to having been caught with his un-rubbered cock in the cookie jar..... This interview sent so many mixed messages you have to wonder how many different people in the room were telling him how many different things.........

...........and guess what - I'll bet a month's wages that he is totally shoving his cock in butts and sitting down on them raw right now...........

.........Hypocrite...............

.....and no I don't think porn stars are role models ......... but if you're going to be in the gay media...... which anyone can access via the web...... say the truth....... we have enough people pointing fingers at what we say and do without moron's like this idiot sending out four, five, or ten different messages...........

...........and to let you know - I've seen both scenes - and the man weren't acting, he was having a truck load of fun ......... makes you wonder...........

....That's my 2 cents worth, and I just spent it.......

.....What's yours?........

Damien
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